I just sat through a meeting with a lawyer, a massage parlor owner, two local business/political types (I call them "bosses") and an (off-duty?) police investigator. It was a meeting to discuss a popular message board that talks about massage parlors and escort services. It was unbelievable.
Guys, you have no idea of the power that lines up behind this kind of issue.
It's all about money, honey. And it ain't the house fees I'm talking about. Everybody these days wants information, and information is power. Power costs money, and power has money. The mamasan wants a clean business with no trouble, the cops wants a clean business with no trouble, and the customers want a clean business with no trouble. The lawyers and "bosses" want that, too, but more than that they want power. And they get that power from information. If you are a guy posting information on message boards, you're information is of interest to these guys. Don't ask me why; figure it out for yourself.
And information they get. From what i could see, the lawyer hit a website owner with a massive amount of legal paperwork, and got back practically complete records of user visits, IP numbers, postings, and just about anything he wanted. One web site was ordered by the court to hand over every computer hard drive without any notice (they didn't actually take them but sent someone who copied them). Some IT people matched the records to actual people in town, with names and addresses and jobs and phone numbers. And someone (the detectives?) provided more info on them. There were posts that said massage girls gave blowjobs, anal sex, and all sorts of crazy stuff, and the guys doing the posting stated things as if they thought they were anonymous. Clearly slander and harmful stuff. Think massage parlors don't have good lawyers? Think again. This guy was paid $400 per hour. Somebody's in for a few surprises, I think. There was a god discussion of how damages are calculated when people make irresponsible statements that harm a business. It included the $400 per hour fees for the lawyers. nasty, nasty stuff. Stupid people, those message board posters.
I know it's a local election year, so maybe this is about eliminating competition? Someone is going to do something with this information, for sure. Or threaten to. It didn't seem like an extortion meeting, but honestly it was like they all knew the posts were mostly hearsay and bullshit, extremely harmful, and that the mamasan was paying tons of fees and taxes to everybody around the table. this was a business meeting, pure and simple.
I've been pretty lucky that my customers don't bad mouth me in public like that. But then again, I don't usually accept customers of the "caliber" that complains on prostitution message boards. But if you are one of those guys who thinks that he's anonymous because he uses Anonymizer or AOL or whetever, think again. There was a lot of money around the table today, and these guys know what they are doing.
On a related note, Lucky Therapy in Bloomfield, NJ was busted last month. It had operated for 10 years, with 2 small problems in 2001. I actually slept there once many years ago, travelin gon my way to NY nd visiting oneof my girlfriends. open for 10 years, I guess you could say that the town new about it, and tolerated it, and it stayed pretty clean. If all you read is the first few paragraphs of that news report, it sounds like the town cleaned up a problem. But down at the bottom, you see the local politician blaming the landlord for allowing the tenant. You learn that the building owner is in a legal dispute with the town - the town wants to steal the property under eminent domain laws.
If you speak to the locals (I simply had to make a phone call when I read this), you hear that the town has lost two huge, expensive legal battles so far, and has run out of options for controlling that block. Remember what I said about power, money, and all that? It's not just big fish batttling in the ocean. You know what they say in Korea... whales battling in the ocean break the backs of many small shrimp in the area.